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Originally posted by kddani
Perhaps it's because they haze the crap out of their pledges, for starters. Which has an effect on the entire greek population.
Have you read the threads??? Have you seen the show?
Also judging from that official statement from UofB, i'd also be very surprised if they were still there next year.
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Yea, i've read the threads, seen the show; walked the walk, talked the talk....
I think people are confused about hazing here. Trust me, what these kids are going through (on t.v.) is not hazing. Push-ups and line-ups are hardly something I would call hazing.
Maybe the argument shouldn't be if they are or are not hazing... I think the whole hazing guidelines is a bunch of malarky. In my opinion, a more reasonable, rational, logical (or whatever pc word you use for "common sense") definition of hazing should be activities that wouldn't be considered o.k. under any situation (greek or non-greek). For instance, forced drinking, not o.k. under any situation. Physical violence/abuse - not o.k. under any situation. Now doing push-ups as part of a pledge program you voluntary accepted and can quit at any time? Or being yelled at for screwing up, please, take off your diapers and grow up. Hazing is causing harm to someone in my book, a little excercise and non-alcoholic fun never hurt anyone.
But enough about my views, overall I can't say these guys are breaking any real guidelines or rules, and if they are then everyone is. Throwing them out would be nothing more than a publicity stunt. Next thing you know you'll be telling me that giving them tests and grading them is hazing. This crap always gets way too out of hand, but honestly and seriously I don't think anything yet amounts to hazing or a reason to get pissed off at these guys.
- RUgreek