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Now be honest, how many NIC/NFC/IFC members can say, 1) they attended their last national conference and 2) they have met ACTIVE members with over 20, 30, 40, 50, 60 years of service in their organization in addition to service in the community in the name of your organization

I was not abel to be at the last national conference because I was, and still is in Africa. My fraternity defined ACTIVE members as people still in college. But if you meant it as a members who are still active with the fraternity outside the college, I've met plenty. Including an 85 years old man who have met one of the founding members. Also, did you forget that most of the executive boards and board of trustees are all older brothers with vast experiences ranging from business to law. Beside, how can we afford the hq, all the salary of the staff, etc. without loyal brothers who contributed both time and money, without expecting nothing back except the joy of helping those who are still in their undergrad year.

The bond you create and the committment you make to the community in in the name of your organization is a bond and committment for life, and I just don't see that same bond or committment after graduation in the NPC/NIC/IFC organizations

THat is it, it's the bond that people create. Sure there are those that did their four years thing and never herd of again. But then there are also others that did their lifetime thing and kept in touch with the fraternity. Every org has these two type of individuals, no matter if it's nps, nic, nphc. BTW, IFC is the same thing as NIC, except IFC is the local NIC. And many campus does not have IFC, instead they have IGC, IGA, or what ever they call them.

The people you cross with will most likely be your childrens godparents, your best man/maid of honor at your wedding, the one you can call at 4 in the morning when you need someone to talk to, the ones who 50 years down the road you can still depend on just as much as when you crossed, and are the ones you always see helping out in the community.

Same with my fraternity. Many are involved with the community, ranging from a school teacher all the way to former mayor of buffalo. Many wedding saw the best man as their brothers. We care with each other. I've called many when i needed help 3 in the morning, and they didn't hesitate to help.

What I think people fail to understand is that black geek ties run deep. It goes deeper than just wanting your child to carry on a tradition. It's about wanting to further your bond with your child. To share common experiences with them. To not only be able to call them your child, but you brother/sister frat/soror, thats something special.

I have hoped that if I have a son will become a SigEp. However, ultimately it is his choice whether to be one, or not to be anything. His happiness and his success is what I care the most about.

To have them be a member of an organization that can claim members such as Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., Jessie Jackson, Arthur Ashe, A. Philip Randolph, Bobby Rush, Maya Angelou, Wilma Rudoolph, Zora Neale Hurston, and Hattie McDaniel.

I guess I can also list famous alumni such as Dr. Theodre S. Geisel otherwise known as Dr. Seus, Ronald H. Brown (RIP), "Gene" Keady, Jr. However, ultimately the key to success of a fraternity is not just the long list of famous people, but how that fraternity or sorority contribute to the betterment of its members and ultimately society and the world.


"When I became a Delta, I became a Delta for life. When I graduate I will still be a Delta. When I get married I will still be a Delta. When I have my children I will still be a Delta. And when I die I will still be a Delta and my robe in heaven better be Crimson and Creme."

Ditto. Just change the Delta to SigEp

Its just different.

We make the fraternity experience. We make it into a noble institution or just another club. Ultimately, we define what brotherhood or sisterhood means. And that my friend, is why fraternity is ever evolving. My organizations have some shameful past in term of discrimination. But we evolved and we would have never been the size we are currently in without evolvution.