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Old 03-05-2003, 07:13 PM
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Originally posted by adduncan
There goes that "everyone" again........hard habit to break, ain't it? (I use it too sometimes, so I know I'm guilty as well.)

But putting that aside, please help me out with this one:

Here's an example of what looks like a double standard (generalizations for demonstration purposes only)--

Any NPC/NIC org says, "Hey, we have people from other races and backgrounds in our group, too!" this is often dismissed as "tokenism".

Any NPHC org says, "Hey, we have white people in our group too--look at Eleanor Roosevelt (aside: 50 years ago...) this is not considered "tokenism".

Why is this?
I swear, this is not trying to start a flame, I'm just wanting to wrap my brain around it.

Adrienne (PNAM-2003)
Ma'am, we are arguing for the same side, lol. We are saying the same thing. If the black family in the article feels that way, what is to say they ALL do? And furthermore, what is to say that NO white families feel that way? That is what is IMPLIED when one alledges a double standard.

And when I said "everyone," I meant it as a generality for purposes of this thread.

My point is this: It can NOT be called a double standard when it is equally likely that both sides will have the same reaction to similar situations.

Again, I do not necessarily condone the mindset of this familyor any other family that might feel this way. But to call it a double standard is absurd, imo.

Also, as for the tokenism issue you raise, it is totally different. It is often assumed that BGLO's do not have white members AT ALL. I think the poster was simply trying to illustrate that not only do they have white members, but some of them are quite famous. Also, BGLO's do not face the burden of diversifying that traditionally white orgs do. That is because there is RARELY an instance where discrimination has been an issue. I bet we can all think of instances where blacks have been denied access to historically white GLO's. Can anyone document (WITH A SOURCE, lol) a time when a white person was denied entry into a BGLO?
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