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Originally posted by smiley21
what do you mean it wasnt there?
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I mean exactly that - it didn't exist. The phrase "under God" wasn't added to the pledge until 1954 when a Roman Catholic organization urged the government to make the change.
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Originally posted by smiley21
even if you dont believe in God, show some respect to the fore fathers. good Lord, its just two simple words, 'under God'. saying it DOESNT MAKE YOU RELIGIOUS!!!!!!!
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When did I ever show disrespect to the forefathers? The only group I can think of that I may have disrespected is the Knights of Columbus, but aren't they in fact disrespecting non-believers and people of different religions by insisting that their God is mentioned in the Pledge? If one deity is mentioned, then all should be mentioned. This doesn't work either because there are people who don't believe in a supreme being. Therefore, in order to accomodate everyone ("one Nation"), the phrase should be removed from the Pledge. To achieve equality and give everyone the opportunity to say the pledge, we must cater to the lowest common denominator, which in this case is the group of non-believers.
Were the citizens being disrespectful pre-1954 before "under God" was added? And if that phrase is comprised of "just two simple words," what is the harm in removing them altogether? If it is so easy for a non-believer to utter them, then it is surely as easy for a believer to NOT utter them. After all, they are "just two simple words."
This is not about respect for the forefathers. It is about separation of church and state. I am sure if this passes, it will open up a whole can of worms, but so what? Is it wrong to think and reassess? Is change that bad?