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Originally posted by Arya
True i do not know the region well from a personal experience, which i doubt u do as well, but I do get information from sources which few people get. Not talking about CIA stuff, but other sources. Though the CIA info easier to get then u think. This is after all, the same agency that send arab speaking agents to Pakistan. Kinda like sending Japanese speaking agent to Korea. however, thinking bout it, i don't think any university, unless there is a majority vote from the students, staff, faculty and alumni, should consider themselve either pro or against the war. And since when does citizenship matter when they are espousing their view? or what funding? Should I silenced the local Young Republican or young democrat because i don't like both parties? Restricing the voice of anybody used to be accepted, back when the constitution only applied to White, Christian, Land Owning member of the staes. We have evolved, though our foreign policy have devolve. Many Organizations are funded by outside source., NYPIRG, AMnesty, Save the Baby.
Back to the topic, my main concern is the evolution of international law, which we have violated in many instances, such as the invasion of grenada. Talking to many diplomats, officially they'll say that they are with the US, privately they are more concerned that the US is doing the same thing they did to the League of NAtions, rendering it uselss (that debatable, as i see the security council as useless due to tis undemocratic system of veto, whicn ironically the US was against but the soviet was for in the formation of the UN) But as I and many have argued, international law only exist for those without a nuclear weapon.
And for the tyrans that i wrote, which on of them was a benelovent democratically elected leader? Suharto and his holocust of over 250,000 East Timorese (which we not only supported but funded and armed and trained. With the military back in power in that country, we want to start trainig them again. So much for beacom for democracy and freedom)? Noriega? (trained by School of America now changed to something else, but still functioning)? They are all tyrans, despotic, scumbags. But hey, they're our scumbag.
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"True i do not know the region well from a personal experience, which i doubt u do as well, "
Wrong.
"but I do get information from sources which few people get."
I spend several hours a day, every day, reading these kinds of analyses. I am willing to bet that you have patted yourself on the back with this remark - but either way, it makes no difference in my conversation with you whether you got your information from a source a lot of people have access to or very few people have access to unless you had top secret clearance (in such a case, I wouldn't believe you'd be spewing info on GC so that's not an option).
"This is after all, the same agency that send arab speaking agents to Pakistan. Kinda like sending Japanese speaking agent to Korea."
That's not the best criticism to make. Arab speaking agents have a good role to play in Pakistan since many people speak Arabic.
"And since when does citizenship matter when they are espousing their view? or what funding? Should I silenced the local Young Republican or young democrat because i don't like both parties? "
Citizenship does matter in the case of a public AMERICAN university. Your example of Republicans and Democrats does not apply here for that reason.
"Many Organizations are funded by outside source., NYPIRG, AMnesty, Save the Baby."
There is a difference between an international organization that is composed of views from all places and a public Michigan university.
"Back to the topic, my main concern is the evolution of international law, which we have violated in many instances, such as the invasion of grenada."
You're making this too easy. I don't care about Grenada right now. I care about Iraq and the resolutions, including the specific type of resolutions, that have been passed in regards to it.
"Talking to many diplomats, officially they'll say that they are with the US, privately they are more concerned that the US is doing the same thing they did to the League of NAtions, rendering it uselss (that debatable, as i see the security council as useless due to tis undemocratic system of veto, whicn ironically the US was against but the soviet was for in the formation of the UN)"
While, I don't mind talking about foreign policy, I feel there is no point to it right now. Bringing up that you're speaking with diplomats doesn't really make your point more valid simply because you are not Kofi Annan.
"And for the tyrans that i wrote, which on of them was a benelovent democratically elected leader?"
The Shah of Iran was not democratically elected, since he was a monarch, but he was more benevolent than you could understand. People who had know nothing about this man, nothing about this country, and nothing about this region sure did love to attack him however. And most people believe that his son will be the next ruler of Iran - democratically elected and all - after the toppling of a cruel regime that rode into power on protests of abuse.
And Damasa, I don't like the idea of putting weaponry into the hands of any government that is vulnerable.
-Rudey