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I would say that there has to be a line or two drawn, because i consider what my frat does as Pledging not hazing, but im sure there are people out there who would call it that. At the very most it could be called Constructive Hazing, but that is the key word, CONSTRUCTIVE, having a point to everything and never going out of your way to do stupid things to them ie punching trees or running in to walls, etc. Our squires (pledges) might get a little yelling here or there, or miss alot of sleep but its good for them because unless they are broken down how can they be rebuilt back up. As for frats/sorors, that say they dont haze i call shananigans, because if you show me any pledging program i could find something that can be misconstrued as hazing in one way or another. We are currently in the process of pledging in some new guys and thier captian has been a very good friend of all of us for 3 years but hasnt been able to pledge till now for various academic/social probation issues, he came into it thinking the first night was going to be a cake walke, well we fixed that and broke him the first night and even though hes getting it bad from actives and alums he's still going forward and when its all said and done he will be thankfull for all of it and im sure he will make a great Knight. But as long as hes a squire his pledgings going to be long, hard, meaningfull, and constructive.
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