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Originally posted by SableCherub:
proof positive right here...i never downed pledging...i am against ABUSE...there is a big damn difference...and when people speak against it...all of a sudden they are seen as being against PLEDGING...you are right...this can be debated all day and all night...but until someone steps up and actually takes a concerted effort to truly do something about it and not just put a band-aid on it and say that everyone that takes issue with the process is against pledging and doesn't want to "earn" their membership...people will continue to go round and round to no avail...i am not against PLEDGING...i am against abuse..."if people want something badly enough-and for the right reasons, they'll be willing to pledge"? if people want something badly enough-and for the wrong reasons, they'll be willing to endure ABUSE...be willing to break every principle your organization stands for...and be willing to lower their moral and spiritual standards for a fleeting reward...
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I agree with what you've said. People will be people; they'll mess up a good thing every time, because they just don't think.