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Hazing is such a hard thing to define. KAO used to require its members to take a test, you know like the history of the chatper, ect... but hum that hazing. Just like everything else. I do understand the big things that hurt people but some of the small things that we as a chapter can get in trouble for is stupid. Other then ritual we can't exclude our new members from anything and they can't do anything by themselves like have a meeting because that would be hazing. I think the definition needs to be made clear to some Headquarters so they can decide what is really hazing.
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