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I think we should respect BetaRulez!
If he said it's not secret stuff, then we should believe him.
I know that at my friend's chapter, someone's mom helped to make some of the stuff ages and ages ago. And the ritual book has guidelines for making the stuff in ritual. Someone's dad or boyfriend helped the girls make it because they had to cut the wood with a saw.Not sure what they made (I am assuming a table or something-it wasa a lot of wood!)At least that's what they were told. Not sure if that's true.But it just shows that everyone is different and if your's is top secret, don't harsh on someone's who's isn't.
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