[Kevin]

If it works, what does it work to do? And is it the best way of accomplishing something?

I can say 100% accurately that our candidate class is tight. The ones that worked hard and did what was asked of them regard those that did not do so as outsiders. We do have some newly established traditions in the candidate period but we were very careful to build them around the definition of hazing. If you asked our candidate class if they ere hazed they were not.

Now why does it work? Any group of people that experience trauma together are going to feel closer to eachother. Look at Vietnam vets or veterans of any war. They experience a similar comraderie.

The question is -- is it ethically right to force someone to do certain things? For Sigma Nu I don't thnk it has anything to do with what we stand for.. Love, Honor, Truth. Hazing is none of these things.