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Originally posted by James
This is based on this poastand the many others in this vein . . .
I am not surprised that some of you ladies don't want to do this kind of stuff yourselves, Tatttoos etc.
I am not surprised that you would recomend strongly against it if your advice was asked.
I am surprised that you speak so badly about the people that do these things and that you would go out of your way to punish them within the limited options you have at your disposal (expulsion or whatever).
There is a difference between social disaproval and administrative punishment.
I realize that you all seem to fall within a conservative and narrow viewpoint of what is socially acceptable.
However, as intellegent humans you have to also realize that using your viewpoint to restrict other people's behavior leaves you open to the same treatment?
We can always find more conservative groups of people that consider your behaviors to be morally reprehensible.
I think to be fair, any girl that lives in a state with active sodomy laws should be expelled for violating them. They are guilty of breaking a law based on morality. Would you want your letters associated with sodomy? And people talk, we know who does what, and it would be easy to find out in any case.
Reading the posts on here I am beginning to think less of sorority girls in general.
I find the reasoning to be inconsistent, flawed, or based on non-provable premises. And over all you are revealing yourselves a population that is: uptight, judgemental and vindictive.
Uptight in that you have narrow viewpoints of approved behavior.
Judgemental in that you feel free to condemn any action that violates the narrow viewpoints of your social world views.
Vindictive in that you will go out of your way to hurt the transgressor.
To give you the benefit of the doubt, you women must just believe you are intriniscally better human beings than I view myself to be, that you so easily stand in the capacity of judge, jury, and executioner over your Sisters.
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James,
I really wish that you would get off your high horse. Last time I checked, you weren't a member of the NPC, and I'm more than a little tired of your "holier than thou art" posts whenever you disagree with an NPC sorority woman's viewpoint that is more conservative than your own.
Determining what is and is not appropriate behavior for its members is the job of each GLO's national council. Now, unless you've got some deep dark secret that you haven't shared, you don't sit on my GLO's National Council -- so how dare you sit in judgement of the women on GC who are doing nothing more than saying that certain actions are not acceptable in their particular organizations?
I certainly can't speak for all sororities, but I can speak for mine when I say that Delta Zeta strongly discourages tattoos -- particularly ones that include our letters. The forward-thinking women who added the text about tattoos into our national policies didn't do it because they were "uptight", "judgemental" or "vindictive." They did it because they were wise and knew what might happen if our sisters started permanently stamping their bodies with symbols relating to Delta Zeta. And guess what? Their fears have been realized! There are our letters disgracefully plastered in this month's Playboy magazine because of someone not adhering to DZ policy.
We don't force women to join our sorority. However, like any organization, we do have certain rules that we expect members to follow if they want to remain in good standing. James, you may not agree with our rules, but **surprise** your opinion doesn't matter in this case because you aren't a member of my organization. You as a non-NPC member do not have to like our policies and you certainly don't have to abide by them, but I'll be damned if I'm going to silently sit back and let you insult the women who do!
You say that you are "beginning to think less of sorority girls in general." If being loyal to our sorority and wanting to protect her good name is making you think less of us, then so be it. I have to say that after reading some of your own arrogant, judgemental and vindictive posts that I am beginning to think less of you.
I welcome the comments of other sorority women on the tattoo issue, and I certainly don't have a problem with any of the (non-DZ) GC ladies who believe that having a tattoo, and particularly one associated with their GLO, is okay. I personally don't feel that I have the right to tell a woman of another GLO whether she should or should not have a tattoo on her person. However, I have no problem telling a DZ sister that our policies discourage the practice of permanently affixing official DZ symbols to our bodies in the form of a tattoo, and stating my opinion that we should abide by those policies out of respect to our sorority.