If you follow Fred's argument logically, then we could also posit that Christianity should never have been allowed to become a true religion...new Christians were definitely hazed to an extent beyond which even modern Greeks could invent (anyone ever hear of the coliseum?). If hazing is defined as many people agree "subject to mental or physical harassment..." then Christians are surely hazed. True, they were persecuted, but endured this to "prove" their faith....isn't he using this same argument against us?
Fred also apparently believes in the fallacious Biblical interpretation that it is works that prove your worth to God (in order for us to be "true" men/women of God, we need to expose ALL of our ritual secrets)...sorry, but the last time I ready my Bible (NIV, KJV, NKJV) I believe it is "faith, not works..."
I am a Christian, please understand, but I had to include this to show the flawed logic Fred (and his many other aliases here) has put forward. He challenged me just yesterday to be a "real man of God" and expose my secrets. Yet he continues to show hypocrisy by hiding behind aliases....
Just my 2 cents and change (and a mustard's seed of faith) worth...
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