[QUOTE]Originally posted by Charle:
[B]"Recieving "a bid" is a right and priveledge to be evaluated and be tested."

Isn't the whole purpose of rush/recruitment/intake to be to evaluate the worthiness/compatibility of an individual to see if he at first meets up to the standards of membership, and to be a desirable member of your bond? If not, why do such a disservice to someone who might fit in better with another organizations ideals?
"Thats why , in my Frat, we continue to test brothers (even after they have crossed the sands) to make sure that they dont drop below the standard. Shall I say brotherhood conditioning."

Where does "getting the cut" fit into this? How does this tie into teaching about the fraternity ideals? Does this teach dignity? Respect (not to be confused with fear)? Integrity? What ideals does someone learn about being physically abused? There are far more positive bonding experiences avaiable than to cop out to beating respect out of people...
"It refreshing to see even the famous bruhs (NFL, NBA, Movie stars)join in the festivities of brotherhood ( on my level)."

Just because someone enjoys celebrity status does not forgive them of the rights and RESPONSIBILITIES of a true brother (one that lives up to the ideals of your Ritual on a day-to-day basis). In fact, they should be held to a higher standard. We see in the media all to frequently the allegations of hazing in fraternities...imagine the feeding frenzy that would be created if a "celebrity" were found to be in attendance....is that the kind of publicity your organization wants and desires?
" I am glad i didnt join any weak shit"

I'm not doubting you joined anything weak - but don't confuse hazing with strength. Hazing is most often carried out by people with low self-esteem (why else would you physically BEAT on someone you are going to call a BROTHER for LIFE?).
I doubt you will agree with me, but, I see this as a lack of focus on the true ideals, traditions, and purposes of membership in your organization. It's one thing to be proud of what you stand for, but another to arrogantly defend practices that not only state laws find illegal, but fly in the face of the true ideals of your order.
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Don't be your brother's keeper; rather, be your brother's Brother.
[This message has been edited by LXAAlum (edited April 13, 2000).]
[This message has been edited by LXAAlum (edited April 13, 2000).]