[pinkice9]

Originally posted by SilverTurtle:
411, I have to agree with you. I never thought I was hazed, nor do I think that now. I know I didn't haze my new members, and neither did any of my brothers and sisters. But pledging/new member ed was a challenge. We definately earned our letters, as well as pride and appreciation and love for each other.

Thanks I am glad to see that you agree and I feel the same way about the HQ's.

pinkice9

I think we've had such a drastic change, from some hardcore (and unneccessary) hazing to no-tolerance policies, in such a short period of time, many chapters don't know what to do.

From the 'outside' anyways, this appears more so with BGLOs than non-BGLO's. It seems GLOs have taken to 'brotherhood/sisterhood building' and 'education' themed pledging processes, while BGLOs have MIP (which I understand is very different from previous methods and very limiting).

While I commend all of our national organizations for taking strong anti-hazing stands, I think there needs to be some kind of middle ground. Where you, as a chapter, can say "this is what we do here, this is why" etc., and nationals can say "ok", "absolutely not", "ok, but..." ,etc. Obviously none of our HQ's can go around to each chapter and do this, but there definately needs to be more thought put into some of these new programs. (some, however, seem to be excellent, from my limited knowledge).