[shadokat]

KEPike, having everyone come down to clean the house after a party is not just having your new members clean the house. As Heather17 said, what happens if you don't want to clean and say no? He gets a knock against him, as you said it would factor into him becoming a full member. So, in actuality, if he doesn't want to do it, it's not really ok...because he gets that mark on his record...and hence, THAT'S why it's hazing. I hope that makes some sense.