[LPIDelta]

According to FIPG, the legal definition of hazing is as follows: Any action taken or situation created, intentionally, whether on or off fraternity premises, to produce mental or physical discomfort, embarrassment, harassment, or ridicule. Such activities may include but are not limited to the following: use of alcohol; paddling in any form; creation of excessive fatigue; physical and psychological shocks; quests, treasure hunts, scavenger hunts, road trips or any other such activities carried on outside or inside of the confines of the chapter house; wearing of public apparel which is conspicuous and not normally in good taste; engaging in public stunts and buffoonery; morally degrading or humiliating games and activities; and any other activities which are not consistent with fraternal law, ritual or policy or the regulations and policies of the educational institution.

So regardless of whether your national policy specifically says house cleaning is hazing-- it is. Do you think they would choose to do it on their own if you weren't making them? Do you think it makes them feel equal or worthy to have to scrub toilets? And I hate to point this out, but according to the definition, "lore tests" and "song tests" can be categorized as hazing if it leads to embarrassment or degredation on the part of the New Member. What happens if they don't know something? That is the true test. So some groups stay away from those things completely.

I agree that just because an active member does something does not make it ok for New Members-- because I've seen alot of active members do stupid things.

Ultimately, if you have to ask, it probably is. And if its not something you would want to brag to your mom about or the President of your school-- you probably shouldn't 'make' them do it.