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Originally posted by Shine
If there is a group on campus, that comes together to socialize, do service, or under a common professional goal, that calls themselves a fraternity or sorority and wears greek letters, THEY ARE A REAL GLO...point blank, end of story.
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A beautiful run-down on an issue that isn't at all germane to the conversation . . . his use of the term "fake" is more in reference to their ACTIONS, not their principles etc.
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Originally posted by Shine
It's your attitude that makes it hard to accept greek unity in this world.
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. . . and your immediate dismissal of the man's point due to nitpicking a definition makes it difficult for you to do the same, apparently.
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Originally posted by Shine
Aside from the fact that you're a local, and you should be MUCH more tolerant of non-IFC/PFC orgs exisitng. I guarantee you that many people look at your fraternity and it's participation in IFC stuff as you are all a bunch of wannabe rejects from IFC rush, and not real greeks. I'm not speculating, I'm sharing a cold hard fact that I know from being in a national service org, and having dated a few men in a local org.
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This is a strawman . . .
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Originally posted by Shine
That being said, hazing is WRONG, and so is illegal drinking. However, 4 major IFC fraternities just got booted off my campus for hazing and/or other violations. Does that mean THEY are not real greeks?
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According to this man's definition, yes. Look - in this paragraph, you got the point he was trying to make - in the public eye, he's saying, there's no difference between greek letters, and this group with no higher authority (hence, not "real" greeks, who have to follow "rules") comes along and acts like a bunch of assholes.
It's truly an excellent point - he could extend it to sub rosa chapters who don't follow policy, or really any chapter . . . unfortunately, he seems to have targeted the band, and apparently we have a lot of band kids running around the forum, and they're all heated.
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Originally posted by Shine
Go for greek unity man. Don't point the finger. Be proactive and do something about it.
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Follow your own advice - give him advice, don't call him an idiot then agree with his thesis.
On that note -
OnePlus - perhaps the way to stop this sort of thing is through documentation, or reporting to a higher authority. If it's KKY acting like morons, contact the national officer assigned to that particular chapter, or the band leader.
Honestly, it sounds like a no-win situation - try not to take too much to heart, as without a governing body of some sort there appears to be little available for you to do.