[Kevin]

I'd be about the first to say that my 'game' skills are pathetic. Then again I've been going out with the same lady for 2 years now. Even when I landed her though.. pathetic would be the word. I'll admit it.

But to speak for others of my race would be going over the line. I would definitely agree though that I find the media portrays black men as 'players' whereas we white men are clueless as to how that works. I would say it's untrue both ways. The original poster has been to 1 or just a few bars and observed us in our natural habitat and drawn the conclusion that we are all similar or the same. That just can't be said.