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Old 10-11-2002, 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by DoggyStyle82
For a dinosaur like me, I am the PROBLEM.... I'm not letting go of my process and my pride in it. I did not see anything wrong with it or worth pursuing a lawsuit for....

My mindet is the problem. I don't consider "earning my letters hazing. I don't see sweating for my letters in the same manner as the 100,000 before me did as wrong.

The "problem" is I take too much pride in my ACHIEVEMENT. The fact that it was so difficult and required a tremendous amount of what my org cherishes, not only made me feel special and a cut above, my peers, big brothers, and GDIs acknowledged that also. That is the problem.

The fact that my shit is real and not fake, weak, watered down, or PAPER is the problem. As long as there are fraternity and sorority members like me, that aspirants want to emulate, they will always feel the pressure to earn their letters. I'm not ashamed of having pledged hard, nor making others after me pledge just as hard.

That is the problem. When others stop feeling inadequate when in the presence of people like me, hazing will stop.

The day that I start accepting weak CATS as brothers due all the love and respect as those of Blood, Sweat, & Tears, then hazing will end. I and people like me are the "problem".

We all miss the point however, in that the solution lies with the legal system. As long as trial lawyers run this country, there will always be someone to sue and someone to blame.
Well brother, I thank you and I'm glad that you decided to weigh in on this discussion, and one common theme that runs throughout your post is that a mind set like yours is the problem. I really believe that hard work and perseverence should be in everyone's process, however, why does this equate to violence. THe mind games, etc....that's cool, but putting your hands on me?? I was raised differently. I don't know where you (and those that think like you) come from, but where I come from, if anybody, man, woman or child were to lay a hand on me,.... it would be ON! And I don't think people are against the hard work, because for us ACTIVE members out there, we know the work entailed on the graduate level, however brother....people are dying,....... and getting put in the hospital....and not as rare as some may think.

Obviously, it is out of control. Yes, I think those who think as you do are a part of the problem, but you all are entitled to feel however you want about your process......So what do you think a solution could be?

And also, in a brotherhood/sisterhood, when did it become acceptable to CHOOSE who we want to call our brothers/sisters just because we don't like the way the came in?? I thought the goals were Uplift, Education, Scholarship, etc?

And last but not least, if our founders saw what goes on....late night....do you think they'd be pleased?

Please break it down for me. I just want to understand.


Oh yea, for someone who aspires to be a lawyer one day.....please start on another thread on the discussion you brought up at the end!!!