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Originally posted by DoggyStyle82
You ladies have a good discussion going and some of your conclusions are good and some of your suggestions better. They may well be the future. Many of you ladies don't have the value of hindsight on your side, so that makes it even better. For a dinosaur like me, I am the PROBLEM. I'm not letting go of my process and my pride in it. I did not see anything wrong with it or worth pursuing a lawsuit for. My mindet is the problem. I don't consider "earning my letters hazing. I don't see sweating for my letters in the same manner as the 100,000 before me did as wrong. The "problem" is I take too much pride in my ACHIEVEMENT. The fact that it was so difficult and required a tremendous amount of what my org cherishes, not only made me feel special and a cut above, my peers, big brothers, and GDIs acknowledged that also. That is the problem. The fact that my shit is real and not fake, weak, watered down, or PAPER is the problem. As long as there are fraternity and sorority members like me, that aspirants want to emulate, they will always feel the pressure to earn their letters. In this day and time, it means bending the rules. I'm the problem, because I speak proudly and boldly about the MERITS, pageantry, and worthiness of my process. I'm not ashamed of having pledged hard, nor making others after me pledge just as hard. That is the problem. When others stop feeling inadequate when in the presence of people like me, hazing will stop. When people like me learn to stop deriding and belittling the weekender, paper, sign on the dotted line, when do I get my letters and stroll on members, then there will be a change. The day that I start accepting weak CATS as brothers due all the love and respect as those of Blood, Sweat, & Tears, then hazing will end. I and people like me are the "problem". Until we fade away like old men relegated to speaking of the "good ole days", the problem will remain. As long as young men see the arrogance, confidence, strength, character, enthusiasm, and Manhood that a tried and true process develops, they will seek it out and continue the trend.
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It still goes back to the INDIVIDUAL. Feeling INADEQUATE? What kind of mess is that? They aren't weak because of a process or duration of...they are just WEAK! Simple as that!
"You" get your respect because you are "older" and came before, but that's it! It doesn't happen because "you" were "online" in the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s!

Shucks, I cannot help it because my parents didn't have me until 1972 and "your" parents had "you" in 1949! You think I'm going to feel bad or LESS than because of a process that is different from yours or another orgs? Hell naw! I'm proud of it, just as you are of yours (or should be).
The thing is, everyone is different. Just because you chose not to sue doesn't mean everyone had or will have that same view. The fact of the matter is is that many expect a HAND-OUT. People want something for nothing, like they are ENTITLED to everything that is out there! Heck NO!
It's a new day and age. The dinosaurs of Greekdom are extinct (in black and white). I know many "dinosaurs" that realize and embrace this, without forgetting "from whence they came".
Change is hard!
Key: "you", "your"=Speaking generally