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Old 10-04-2002, 03:44 PM
pretty3grl pretty3grl is offline
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Many times what is done illegally in an undergraduate chapter (when it comes to hazing) is done by graduate Sorors who are often inactive and nonfinancial. Sometimes the graduates who participate in undergraduate activities are active in a grad chapter (believe me, I have seen them expelled). The mother who is suing has said on numerous occasions that the process was "underground", thus she knew that it was not a sanctioned process. I wish that she would have reported what was being done to the police before that tragedy occured. I also know that in a lawsuit, percentage of blame is determined, and part of assigning blame is to ask "did someone know or should they have known what was going on." The mother knew, the "pledgers" knew, the "pledgees" knew, but how the college or the sorority could know that a chapter that has been suspended for 2 years and has absolutely no membership could be having "lines" is beyond me. I don't know how they do it in Cali, but in Texas, I have yet to see a Soror recognize a renegade anyway (If you are not national, you are NOT a Soror regardless of what you went through!).
As for availability to info, I believe that the college made it clear that there was no chapter at the college, and I believe that anyone can log on to any college's webpage to get information about campus organizations just as easily as they can log onto an organization's webpage to find out who has been suspended or expelled. The bottom line is some people just don't care. Even if all BGLO's put suspended or expelled members on their webpages, this would not identify absolute perpertrators or renegades. In short, we are not able to send a letter to every man, woman, and child telling them that a chapter is not active or that a person is not, or has never been a member, and we shouldn't feel obligated anyway. As was said earlier, those women were grown, one was married, and one was a mother. I want to point out that even if undergraduate chapters are eliminated, that does not mean that some will not sign up to be hazed by "whoever" anyway, or that graduate members (not chapters) will not conduct illegal processes. As long as there are people out there who are down for whatever, we will all be subject to lawsuit. Whether or not a person has a real case, a lawsuit is bad for the image of the organization anyway, and to outsiders looking in, we will be just as guilty (ie. Alpha Kappa Alpha is dealing with this even though there wasn't even a chapter on the campus, and EVERYONE involved KNEW what was going on was not legal. If undergrad chapters were banned at the time, the lawsuit would have likely still been filed because the family said that any resolutions made to address hazing have been a farce).
I've also been curious as to whether any money was paid for this "process", and where this money is.