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Old 09-22-2002, 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by Optimist Prime
The American Flag is a symbol. A symbol of violently overthrowing laws that were unfair. If it has become a symbol of unfairness then that issue needs to be addressed and corrected. Kicking someone out because he has a differrent opinion than you is very brotherly. In fact, that is the opposite of what brotherhood means. Brotherhood=unconditional love. Do not be your brother's keeper. Be your brother's brother. If you care about someone enough to call him a brother then you should love him unconditionally. If you call some one a brother then you should find out what is going on with him, and why he did that, othewise YOU suck as brother. I love my brothers
I don't know if that was directed towards me, but never tell me that I suck as a brother. You don't know our brotherhood and you certainly don't know me. I understand that he had a right to protest, but he used a flag that wasn't owned by him, he used a flag owned by the fraternity.

This certain brother has had a history of problems and violence in our fraternity. This is the latest issue in his outspoken hatred of our country (or so it seems). Earlier this year he had a confrontation with one of our African-American members and he proceeded to use racial slurs. He was suspended at that time. Now this happens. He has been in trouble before that, at one point threatening a girl in a sorority on campus which almost brought our fraternity into a legal battle (luckily all charges were dropped).

Like I said before, I understand that he was enforcing his right to freedome of speech, but it is problem after problem after problem with this brother and I personally feel that he should be expelled.

Then again, maybe the ass beating he got after the incident by another brother was enough of a punishment? I don't know, but now that brother is also going up for review.

Again, I can't kick anyone out by myself, nor do I want to, but I feel that there is no other option.

As for props, he gets none from me, the guy has shamed me at this point and it is going to take a lot for me to be able to look at him the same way.

As for the "you suck as a brother" comment, I'm sorry but I'm probably one of the best brothers in my fraternity. I'll do anything for my brothers and I work my ass off for the fraternity. But there comes a poimt, and if he were to get booted (which I feel should have already happened) I think it is because of his unbrotherly actions (not the stomping on the flag) which is more like the icing on the cake kind of thing.

Why did he do it? He has told some of the brothers that he simply "hates this country." Why I don't know, but he is a nationl French citizen, not a natural American citizen.

Last edited by damasa; 09-22-2002 at 06:51 PM.
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