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Old 09-11-2002, 05:50 PM
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Doggystyle says...

"...As far as Snoop is concerned, thematically, I can see your point, but specifically, it does not apply to the video concept nor the lyrics of the particular song, which I don't recall being misogynistic, glorifying violence, and/or drugs. "

I think that the guilt by association thing rings true when you consider my argument on brand name association. Pepsi dropped Ludacris not because he was pimping or drinking cognac in their commercial that he appeared in, but because he has done it in songs that have gone out nationwide on televison and radio. Regardless of the content of the specific song that your fraternity brothers appeared in, Snoop's "brand name" or reputation is associated with Gangsta Rap or "Thug Life", it is part of his marketing strategy. When the name brand of Omega Psi Phi appears with the name brand of Snoop Dog, association takes place in the minds of the audience, and the willful association of the two parties implies mutual consent and affirmation of values and ideas.


Doggystyle says...

"Do Steve Harvey, Joe Torrey, and Ricky Smiley disgrace the Frat by telling dirty jokes for a living? By your thesis, they certainly do. Its all about context and purpose."

Again that Omega zeal fails to inform you of my argument. My argument is that the brand name of Omega Psi Phi maybe tarnished when it appears in certain media outlets. Individual brothers doing things unseemingly is part of every fraternity's culture. Should a brother's unseeming acts reflect on the fraternity as a whole? I think that is up for debate, but no doubt when a brother does something wrong, and it is known that he is a brother of XYZ fraternity, it reflects on the fraternity, whether he is wearing letters or not. I am speaking of the Letters being shown in a national and even world wide medium being associated with certain media outlets (porn magazines) and certain groups of people (Gangsta Rappers) and how people will construe this as the fraternity consenting with the values of such media and people. When I was in undergrad, we had certain rules about wearing 'nalia' as we called it. There were certain things you did not do while wearing the letters. This was because we did not want to misrepresent Alpha in any way. This is my sentiment in creating the thread. I do not think that my argument speaks to individual brothers representing their respective fraternities within their professions, but whether the fraternities should be more conscious of their image in the media.
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