[Phrozen Sands]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

Actually, the term is based in science and isn't simply what "they" (educated, non-bigoted people, I guess) call "us". https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/hi...ientific-roots

What defines your sex? Genitalia? Hormones? Chromosomes? Guess what - there are myriad ways those can present, meaning that the idea that there are 2 sexes, easily determined and immutable, is biologically wrong. https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...y-simplistic1/

This breaks down the issues nicely - https://www.boredpanda.com/biologica...witter-thread/

Stating that people are "identifying as animals" is fallacious and insulting. I know the pain and heartache my trans friends and family have gone through. They don't deserve the contempt and insults of transphobes and TERFs. Let people decide for themselves how to live their lives, especially if it doesn't affect yours. Trust chapters to decide for themselves which women of whatever ilk they wish to extend a bid to, and take all that energy and put it towards something positive.

ETA - I'm not interested in any ignorant/bigoted replies; I've heard them all before, and they tend to want to ignore the scientific/medical complications inherent in discussing sex and gender. The similarity between them and the discussions NPC sororities had about admitting women of color is striking. I said my piece and won't be following or replying.

Wtf are you talking about? So let me get this straight. You’re out here comparing black women to “exceptions” in biology? For real? You act like being black is some medical anomaly that complicates the blueprint. Black people aren’t biological curveballs, we’re normal human beings with normal chromosomes and normal reproductive parts with more melanin. Race never made anyone’s sex ambiguous. So using blackness as a stand in for rare intersex conditions is not only ignorant as f*ck, it’s borderline offensive. Do you even hear yourself?

I knew race was going to come out. I just knew somebody was going to pull it out of their ass as a comparison. If anybody is the bigot, you are. For real.

Yeah, I agree with the last part of your post. Don’t come back.

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

“Ciswoman” just means… woman. Born female, still female, no special edits.


I appreciate that you care about your friends and family, nobody’s denying they’ve faced real pain. But the truth is, compassion and clarity are not enemies.

First, let’s talk about this “cis” label. It was coined to make a normal, biologically rooted woman sound like a variation of her own category. It didn’t come from real biological need, it came from a social ideology that says womanhood is just a feeling. Biology says otherwise.

Second, you linked articles that throw out edge cases, yes, a tiny percentage of people are born intersex. But that doesn’t erase the reality that over 99% of humans are clearly male or female based on chromosomes. Exceptions don’t rewrite the rule, they prove it. And using disorders of sexual development to justify the erasure of sex categories is a stretch, not science.

And comparing this to people being denied bids because of race is a false equivalence. Skin color never changes your sex. You can’t hormone-shot your way into different chromosomes. Race and sex aren’t interchangeable puzzle pieces. Comparing this to race is a rhetorical cheap shot because it hijacks real, historic injustice to protect a completely different ideology. It’s literally just a shade. It was contrived by human made hierarchies, not biology itself. But male and female? That’s baked into your DNA. You can’t surgically “pass” your chromosomes. So race and sex are not twins, they’re not even cousins. People love that comparison because it feels righteous, but it’s just emotional blackmail. If your ideology can’t stand on facts without borrowing race trauma for pity points, it’s not truth, it’s marketing.

Also, about the “identifying as animals” thingie, that wasn’t an insult. It’s reality. There are people who now claim to be animals, or furries. I work in vet med, and I see this trend up close. When you blur lines endlessly, you can’t be shocked when the confusion spreads. I didn’t create that, I just refuse to pretend it’s normal.

Nobody wants to feel insulted. But when you demand that everyone else agree reality is negotiable, don’t be shocked when people who love truth don’t comply. I’m not here to be hateful, I’m just not here to lie.

So sure, let people live as they choose. But freedom to choose your lifestyle does not mean you get to rewrite biological facts for everyone else, or force them to pretend biology is flexible when it isn’t.

This! On 🔥