[Sen's Revenge]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Our position is still that we have no position. It's up to the chapter. I think Delta Gamma's statement is on the money though. Maybe I'll look back on this post in 20 years and think I was being a curmudgeon, but fraternities are designed for folks who identify as men, sororities are for folks who identify as women and for those who identify as neither, organizations which have been gender specific for 100+ years are not going to change overnight for you.

I think DG's statement is a good start, but I am not sure that it is specific enough. (I am not judging, however.)

If I am reading you correctly, you are moreso responding to those who are gender nonbinary and/or gender fluid rather than those who are transgender.

My personal stance is in line with DG (and all the others like it).

Further, when we are discussing the BGLOs in particular, because there are so few that they typically have "national" stereotypes, I believe that there is a performance of gender at play here which, to me, would make membership equally appealing to trans and cis people.

If I had a transman friend who wanted to be an Alpha, he would need to be aligned with the way in which Alpha performs masculinity. If he is gender nobinary or gender fluid, he would not feel at home in Alpha and I would not recommend that he join.

There is also the whole idea of passability, which is another can of worms. A transperson who can pass for cis is obviously going to have an easier time in any organization. Unfair, but that's where we are.

Originally Posted by GoldBows

Trans people do not identify as neither, they were born the wrong gender and as such are taking steps to rectify that.
Here is a super helpful article if you're interested in learning more:
https://everydayfeminism.com/2016/08/transgender-101/

Is anyone born a gender?

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

No, they were born the wrong sex and as a result are mentally ill.

They should be given all the concern that we give the mentally ill.

Originally Posted by APhi2KD

I take exception to that. Being born with a foot on your back doesn’t mean you’re mentally ill, it means you have the wrong parts.

I am not sure if I am reading this the way EW intended, but being "born the wrong sex" really does result in mental illness if the person is not born in a supportive family. Transfolks are at high risk for depression, anxiety, and whatnot.

I didn't think EW was saying being trans itself is a mental illness. If so, I don't agree with that.