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Old 08-19-2002, 04:54 PM
Phins2left Phins2left is offline
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apologies to KD or DW for the personal umbrage taken.

I don't apologize for repeating words posted here when, on their face they run contradictory to the message which is allegedly trying to be forwarded. However nasty my words were received, understand that I was not the poster who proceeded from the judgement of "Stupid". Insofar as that is concerned, it was personal when I got here. Plus, many of the posts, no matter how much everybody "respects everybody else", this whole issue is a judgement debate over WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE DOING. It is inherently invasive into lives not directly connected to your own.

That said, and without admitting to any particular motives for my posts, may I suggest that the following two things be considered, perhaps as lessons to be learned:

1. KD correctly pointed out that I don't know her from Eve, except for what she has said here, and therefore I am not qualified to make a personal judgement about her. This is true. It is also true for those folks who set up the Lambda 10 site and those folks who post their name and information there....it's not 'stupid' (those were someone else's words, but you get the picture). MORE IMPORTANTLY was the fact that I came out of nowhere and started attacking people I didn't know based on a something I saw that I didn't like.....does this sequence of events sound a little familiar to those on this board who have lived with a gay or lesbian? Like, perhaps, the sometimes endless character attacks and innuendos they suffer? For consideration, I also offer the comment leveled at me which implies that, as a newbie to the group, I ought not pass a judgement until I've been around a while and walked in the group's shoes, so to speak. The same should be said of gay and lesbian greeks everywhere when you have the urge to question their coming out, showing pride, or doing something you think is over the top (such as a girlfriend date to formal): perhaps one should consider walking in their shoes a while before forming an opinion.

2. Although no one has explicitly posted anything about disliking gays/lesbians, read through it all again with as clear a mindset as you can and see if you don't finish with a sense that there is something unsaid in some of those posts which feels an awful lot like bigotry. I don't suggest that this is even intentional, but the purpose of getting an education is to open your mind, and opening your mind requires introspection, so go ahead and give it another thorough read and see if you mihgt not agree; finally

3. KD, I'm sure you're going to be in the top of your class. Admittedly, it didn't take much to provoke you which was a cheap shot on my part. My point required someone to fight back through a solidarity manuever, which you did aptly. Good luck with law school.




"If we shadows have offended, think but this and all is mended; that you have but slumber'd here, while these visions did appear; and this weak and idle theme, no more yielding than a dream. Gentles, do not reprehend; if you pardon, we will mend..."
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