[Phins2left]

Let's review some of what's been in this thread, beginning with some tag lines:

Today, tomorrow, forever
~Sometimes the best way to figure out who you are is to go someplace where you don't have to be anyone else~


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"To be womanly always; To be discouraged never."

Hmmm, yet the posters who have these as their tag lines don't seem to support the gay and/or lesbian poster's efforts to be out - for whatever reason. If the Chi-O really believed that it was never acceptable to be discouraged, why would she try to discourage people from posting on that site? And, let's face it, the AGD who posted the first quote doesn't really know what it means if she doesn't "get the point" of the Who's Out List.

Of course, this thread got even better with:

"I think to make a page like that is kind of wierd. But, hey, if they are happy and proud to be gay then more power to them. But honestly, I wouldn't make it so public. "

HELLO?????? If they "make it so public"?!?!?!?!. C'mon, be honest. If one of your brothers or sisters told you and two others that they were gay/lesbian/bisexual it would be all over the chapter in 30 minutes and all over campus in 1 day. I assure you, it's not the brother or sister who placed trust in discretion who are inherently making things public. Think it through; if being gay were truly no big deal, then these people probably wouldn't be posting on that site. However, it is a big deal, and not because they made it so, but because people like the above quoted individual think it's "weird". I do accept the lukewarm support in the middle sentence, but that bright spot is wedged between two slices of crap.


"I'm looking for a word other than stupid to describe the site...
I just think that it's unsafe for these woman and men to post their full names, universities they went to, and then have a link to email them. Are they wanting gay bashers to threaten/stalk them? I certainly hope the people who created that site have some action plan if something terrible goes wrong. "

And I'm just looking for a word other than 'bigot' to describe you. Weren't paying attention in any of those psych or soc classes, were you? Your actions are classic examples of repression...the "i'm saving you from bad things for your own good" mentality. Well meaning as you may think you are, please examine your true intentions and feelings on the subject of gay greeks. I'm willing to bet you will see through the very thin veneer of your post directly down to the subtle homophobia.

Finally, since this now has become a soap box, the 3% to 4% numbers for homosexuality in the general population are data from two research modules which are generally considered methodologically flawed. Nevertheless, even if they weren't flawed, those numbers are ONLY representative of folks who WERE and ARE EXCLUSIVELY gay or lesbian. it does not reflect the panolopy of sexual orientations, including bisexuals or even those who have, on more than one occassion "messed around" (don't even pretend you don't know what I am referring to - or that the incidence of such situational sexual orientation is not rampant).

Maybe your house has no lesbians or gay men. Maybe there are a bunch you don't know about. There is no quantitative data available for figuring that out. Though, from an anectdotal point of view, let me tell you that I have gone through college satisfying my sexual needs with same sex people from several other chapters, most of whom you "would never have known...".

And, as a final note, just let me say that I truly hope that a favored brother or sister comes out to each of you very soon, so that you will see in their eyes the trust they are placing in you , that you will mind your pledge of sister/brotherhood and that you will not merely not reject them, but you will embrace them as they are. This, I tell you, is the true meaning.



K, I feel better now.

buh bye