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Originally posted by Arya
Ah, I was waiting for the flame war to start. But back to the topic and sub-topic at hand.
Hamas was funded and supported by the Israel government in the 80s to off-set the growing power of the PLO. I'll try to find the source as soon as possible. So it's the dog comming back to bite the master arses.
The problem with the current Israel-Palestine problem is the lack of leadership on both camp. Both leaders are of the old school of fighting. Arafat was a good revolutionary leader, and Sharon was a good war general. Neither know a single thing about state-building or peace negotiation. I just read a study about Hamas and its pattern of violance. It's violance goes hand in hand when a negotiated peace is gaining steam. So the fight in many way is against those that want peace (Sharon is not one of them, neither is Arafat), and those that would like to stay in power through haterd and violance (plenty of those on both side, don't kid yourself if you think only the Palestinian are perpetrating violance.)
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Listen I have only responded in an ill manner towards one person. Read his posts. You know what he says is very different from what you and anyone else has said.
1. How exactly was Arafat a good revolutionary leader?
2. Your assumption that Sharon knows nothing about state-building or peace negotiations is wrong. Being a top general does not mean you can't be a good leader. Most Israeli leaders were generals. Sharon was involved with state building for a long time as part of the Knesset under Likud, Labor, and his own camp, Shlomzion (Peaceful Zionists). Sharon was an essential element of both the military campaign to quiet down hostile Egyptians in the Sinai as well as the negotiations team afterwards which returned the Sinai in full. It was Sharon that ordered the settlements in the Sinai evacuated and destroyed in the name of peace. It was Sharon that courted the Egyptians and did a massive amount of the negotiations to achieve peace. It was Sharon that upset the Likud by agreeing to a Palestinian state next to Israel.
3. The funding of Hamas by Israel is a claim that never gained much steam. Sources were never reliable and most people do not believe that theory. However, the PA was funded and supported through the Oslo Accords by Israel to make the Hamas problem go away.
Either way, this topic is about Iraq, no?
-Rudey