Silver turtle, I think you missed my point. My point was not to separate the GLO's or BGLO's. My point was directed at the individual who directly started talking about Black people and why we have to say we have Black pride and the such. However, although BGLO's were traditionally founded by and for Blacks, that does not mean that we do not have members who are not Black. Thus, I am not encouraging the separation of the races, yet I was responding to the individual who spoke of trying to keep her organization all White. I was responding to message about having White pride and being called a racist. The individual was somewaht off of topic, thus my response was somewhat off of topic. However, my response was directed at that individual and letting her know why we, as African Americans do have pride in these organizations that were started at a time when we were not allowed in other organizations. I do see the value in the co-mingling and the acceptance of other members in our groups. However, when we have Rush or other events we do not explicitly outlaw others and only include Blacks. But one point I would like to make is that although we are supposed to be a society where we are all treated with the same respect, what is the reality. You saId that we should be happy to be in a society where we are all treated with the same respect.. Yes, I am happy to be in the US and would not want to be anywhere, but I think it's a little naive to believe that this is a society where we are all treated with the same respect. That's just the reality of it. And, thus we always have to refer back to history to make a point and in trying to further the progress of this country. Therefore, we can not ignore the past in recreating the future. The past is very important in the dealings that we have today and in the future.. Now, that does not mean we have to LIVE in the past. But we do have to look at the past. However, I do appreciate your suggestions and that is what is needed in order to try to work things out and make the issues not so Black and White. People always talk about the problems but never have any suggestions, therefore I commend you with your suggestions. I just hope that you are actually acting on your suggestions..
[This message has been edited by Lil' bit (edited December 13, 1999).]