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Oh Yeah, and (this was in the south, so ya'll understand) we had Cockroaches and mice when I first joined - we had to add a line item to our budget for the Exterminator.
He use to tease us with the comment, "Those mice must have little tee-shirts to wear to your meetings . . . they keep coming back!')
(of course, they might get fined)
A few years later his daughter pledged us!
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