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Originally Posted by MU2Driver
I've brought it up twice because it's a good point and one that you choose to ignore. Today you're fine with it because it doesn't affect your organization. One day it will be different and you will want a more thoughtful and nuanced approach.
The combination of condemning entire groups for the conduct a few and condemning because of speech (vile speech, but still only speech) is dangerous. The First Amendment is there to protect unpopular speech.
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I am not ignoring your point, I am sticking to the topic. You are bringing in the "everyone else does it" reasoning and that doesn't fly with me.
As for the bolded, you could not be more wrong on that. You are a relative newcomer to GC and apparently you do not know me well at all. Further, it doesn't matter whose ox is getting gored here, contrary to your claim. This time it's SAE, but last week it was Theta, or Chi O, or Kappa - whatever. I am not changing my stance depending on the letters. I have zero tolerance for this type of behavior.
And this is NOT a First Amendment issue. The Federal government is not punishing SAE. And, the First Amendment does not protect you from the consequences of your speech. Don't ignore that fundamental principle.