LAWDY MISS CLAWDY this thread went off the rails.
As far as RFM...I don't think that "venom" quote was directed at me, but just to clarify, I think it's great and long, LONG overdue. It does come with challenges as LABlondeGPhiB described, but there are ways to face them, such as Clemson's solution or simply adding more parties.
As for the rest of it....wow. Titchou's pearl-clutching at "she can't go through formal rush again for a year and a half!!!" just verifies the kind of thing I am talking about. A second semester freshman has had a whole semester to check out and get to know members of the Greek system. She doesn't need a week of choreographed parties to know what's up. To imply that she does doesn't say much about her personality or ability to make friends and deal with new situations.
SydneyK, you pretty much hit the nail on your head in all your posts. We tell women over and over again that "it doesn't matter if you were on the first bid list/if you were a snap bid/if you were COBed, you will still have a great experience!" It's true. We all get the same membership certificate from our GLO no matter how we came to it. Your name isn't in gold leaf if you're a legacy, you don't get an asterisk beside it if you were an open bid, and you don't get a free platinum frame with it if you had to decline parties because you had too many. The important thing is you signed your name and made a pledge. And that pledge, according to the rules of NPC for a very long time, lasted for hopefully a lifetime, but barring that, for at least a year.
And I didn't say it should be a "rule" that no one should approach a girl immediately after rush. My chapter did it all. the. time. But some women will fare a lot better and will be much more receptive if they have some time to get used to college in general, than if they have the most-likely extremely frazzled members of the smallest chapter on campus showing up at her door with a bid immediately after she's gone through a lot of really intense emotions. It depends on the girl. That's something that WRCs need to learn how to gauge.
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Originally Posted by Titchou
So it's November and everyone is just going to wait to offer COB bids until January so they can have a normal NM period. So she gets the bid in January and accepts. Come time to initiate in 6-10 weeks (depending) she decides it's not for her. NOW she has to wait until FR of the following calendar year - not that fall. That's penalizing her when it may have been the GLO's fault for not giving her a proper NM period. Sorry, but no one is ever going to get me to buy into that one.
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I don't understand the part AT ALL about "not having a proper new member period." You give out bids in January (for a school having formal rush in the fall), you run the pledge program for 6 weeks, they initiate. What isn't "proper" about that? Did you think ASTalumna04 meant girls were pledging underground? She didn't.
In these days of 6 week pledge programs, if the chapter wants to, they can have a second pledge class during the fall (unless you're Chi O and pledge all semester) so any girls who dropped could rush again next fall (I'm pretty sure rush rules are seasonal not calendar and always have been) but that's a lot to take on. Some groups now have their pledge programs set up in module form that aren't necessarily progressive (i.e. you don't have to pass module #1 to understand module #2) so women who begin pledging at a later date can be fitted into the program seamlessly and complete the earlier modules later on.
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Originally Posted by luv n tpa
I didn't provide a personal point of view. I elaborated on how it was dealt with on my campus at the time. If she doesn't agree, not my problem.
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And yeah, that.