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Old 07-27-2002, 02:52 AM
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I'm putting this at the beginning b/c it's the crux of my post:
For a "Real Life Example", I know ASU has a 1-A football team, and so does Notre Dame or U. of Michigan, but I don't see us as equals, (I doubt anyone does ) but I know we're both football teams!

Hey SAIRose,
I'm catching on to this thread late, so I hope you catch this one. I wanted to address this b/c I'm from your campus.

I do not consider us the different or the same. I don't consider this good or bad, necessarily. I guess I live in my own bubble, which consists of NPC, NPHC, and IFC groups. The 6 years I've been here at ASU, that is what I've known. I have seen SAI stuff in the FA building, but I always assumed it was an honorary org. b/c the two girls I know that are in it were Music majors (I think. I know they were something related to music)

Even further, until I got on this greekchat board, I never even considered that GLO's that were non NPC, NPHC, or IFC would consider themselves like us. I was "enlightened" to the fact that org's like yours related to us.

So what does that mean when it comes to your question? I guess it means that I have not considered your org as a fellow greek, but only because I do not have contact with your org in the way I have contact with the 8 frats, 4 other sororities, and the 9 NPHC orgs. (like dropins, philanthropic events, RUSH Homecoming, Greek week, etc.) If you were to participate in things like this with me, I would consider you as a fellow greek.

That being said, I still consider you a greek organization. I was not aware until this thread that you have recruitment, pledging, etc. That's because I thought your org. was honorary. If you look in ASU's undergrad bulletin, you would see that SAI, PMA, etc. are listed as honorary/professional orgs. Phi Mu, KA, AKA, etc. are listed as Social Orgs.

But I've read most, but not all, of this thread, and I found the point made that ya'll aren't under our umbrella-org's (NPC). One of the NPC rules is that you can't be in more than one. So that, by nature, makes us competitive in spirit. Since your org. isn't in that "competition," I don't see it as the same.
SEE REAL LIFE EXAMPLE AT BEGINNING

As far as people treating you as lesser than us, I hope that wasn't the case for any of my girls, let alone any "Greek" on campus. I personally don't consider anyone that has the gumption to get out there, find a group that they relate to, take pride in it, and have a hell of a time doing it, as lesser. I applaud anyone that does it! What else is this life for? But I wonder, would any of you on campus consider also joining one of our social orgs? If not, does that mean that you perceive our org's as different?

Lord, I'll keep going unless I stop. Basically SAIRose, I am glad that you have found the sisterhood you have. I think it's cool as hell, and I would never degrade it intentionally, and hopefully, never unintentionally. Some of us are just naive, I guess.
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