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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby
Does anyone know about historical numbers of IU PNM's? Indiana was on my radar when I was selecting a school back in the late 90's, and I don't remember hearing that it was especially competitive, but I was also totally clueless on this type of thing. Has the bed rush always been a disaster, or was there a time when 1000 PNM's were rushing, and it made *some* sense that the chapters with bigger physical houses took more women?
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Yes, it's been historically this dysfunctional/competitive. It was when I was there in the late 80s early 90s. It was like that when my parents' friends were there in the 70s.
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Originally Posted by Iu mom
This is so sad. My daughters rho gam has called (not texted) to check on her and take her to dinner. She is just as confused she said as my daughter. Sadly we love all the other aspects of IU - her major and the campus - it's just this situation. She will keep her chin up and be sure to attend sorority open events- she just found out that a house she loved took 36 legacies which was almost their whole class. My sorority didn't honor her as a legacy...
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What an awesome Rho Gam!! Such a sweet gesture. I hope that cheers her up a little.
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Originally Posted by Katmandu
To tell women they are "not good enough" to be in their chapter and for many the entire "Greek system" after meeting most of these women for 45 - 175 minutes is atrocious and reminiscent of middle school attitudes and bullying.
And for a potential member to tell the un-housed chapters that they are "not good enough" just because they are un-housed after meeting them for 45-75 minutes is also atrocious and reminiscent of middle school attitudes and bullying. You are angry and hurt, but formal recruitment consists of each side making snap decisions after brief parties. In fact, a 45 minute party is long in comparison to many.
In competitive recruitments, most, if not all of the potential members are pretty, smart, active and accomplished. That makes them average in the pool. We all agree, IU is a difficult situation, but no one is telling the PNMs they are not good enough. In fact many of the girls who went bidless could well have active members who were pulling for them and deeply saddened that they didn't end up high enough on the bid list and come running to the house on Bid Night.
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Exactly. How did these women decide that they couldn't live without the typical experience without ever having lived in a chapter house in the first place? Who can say that one of the unhoused chapters won't get a house in the next 2-3 years? And in the mean time, they might be missing out on some pretty good friendships.
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Originally Posted by silver_blue
Amen. You hear tones of that in some of the posts from some IU alumnae in this thread. I'm sure they don't mean to come across that way, but I am sick to death of hearing about how they "couldn't imagine not living with their entire chapter" or "having 100 person pledge classes." Stop diminishing/demeaning the greek experience of 99% of other women on this board just because you're a special IU snowflake.
I swear, nothing beyond basketball gets me more riled up than the idiocy of IU's recruitment system.
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I am NOT one of those IU alumnae who believe that you must live in all three years to have THE experience. I pledged my sophomore year through COB and already had signed a lease. I lived out my junior year, then moved in my senior year. I was miserable. I had only shared a room for my freshman year at IU and I could not handle it. As an admitted clothes horse, I had zero closet spaced and bribed someone to let me use part of the largest closet in the house. HATED it. I was much happier my junior year when my parents bought a meal plan so I could eat lunch there every day and three dinners a week.
I believe you can most certainly have strong sisterhood and not live in a house for the duration of your college career. I experience it still to this day. Some of my sisters are still among my closest friends.
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Originally Posted by ChioLu
Who's on IU administration??? Tim Gunn!
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I love love love this. Tim Gunn is the best! Can you picture him being a Rho Gam... "Make it work ladies. Make it work!"
Whew!