[Kevin]

And maybe in a slightly different lane, 5) because even though you're rushing a chapter of our own organization, unless you're going to our school or one we are personally familiar with and up-to-date with, we have no idea how to answer your question. Every school has a different membership intake situation and every fraternity within that school has its own way it deals with that. If you're rushing Sigma Nu at California State, L.A., I may have met a member of that chapter at convention, but I have no idea how their intake process works.