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I was not necessarily directing that at you, MysticCat. I'm appalled that most here think in terms of the damage and liability to the university rather than the psychological - and possible physical - damage to the young people involved. Have any of you heard Mary Ann Callais, Theta Phi Alpha, talk about living your ritual? She's awesome - and it's an awesome talk. That's what I am talking about. How does any behaviour - hazing or just otherwise wrong- perpetuate your ritual? It doesn't.
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