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Originally posted by PhiMuNursie
I've been sitting back watching all this after I was one of the firsts to "defend" UF. I've noticed an amusing trend in that the mods. continue to get more and more defensive about their decision. Did ya'll think we were gonna thank you?
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No, I don't think the moderators expect people to come bowing at our feet, thanking us profusely for banning someone.

HOWEVER, I also don't think that we ought to be constantly berated when someone doesn't like a ban when it occurs, either. It is extremely rare for someone to be banned on GC. People who have been around awhile know this to be true. So I think it's pretty safe to say that when someone gets banned that it's for a
very good reason.
The thing is, mods know that if we DON'T do something about a problem GCer then we're going to hear about it... and also know full well that if we DO do something about the person then we're STILL going to hear about it. It's a no win situation, and I personally have a great deal of admiration for all of the mods who put up with it, even the ones that I don't agree with on a daily basis. I think alot of us take more abuse from people here than we do at our "real life" jobs -- and being a mod doesn't even come with a paycheck!

It's not a fun-filled role. In fact, it's a lot like being a member of the executive board in your chapter -- dealing with problems and gripes is a big part of the job -- and I just think it would be nice if people would take that into consideration from time to time.
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Originally posted by PhiMuNursie
At any rate, yes there is a "heirarchy" here on GC. Anyone who claims there isn't is just ass kissing so they can move on up into the "upper level". Personally, I don't buy into it.
Now, this probably doesn't make much sense because it is put together in a random way, but the bottom line is I REFUSE to kiss anyone's ass so that I'm "well liked on GC."
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I think we all realize that not everyone is going to like us 100% of the time. But the implication that we're all "ass-kissing" just so that we'll be "well-liked on GC" is a crock, and most people who are familiar with the mods know it. I personally will give you my opinion, straight up, on nearly any issue you want to debate. However, the fact that I know how to express myself in a polite but firm manner concerning those issues does not equate to ass-kissing. It's called having an adult conversation, and there's a huge difference.
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Originally posted by PhiMuNursie
Perhaps if the mods. stopped defending themselves, they wouldn't come off like they feel something is wrong with the banning, further encouraging the rest of us to go on about this issue.
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As far as being defensive goes, yes, you can definitely say that I'm being defensive! I and other mods are sitting here getting slammed for trying to get rid of someone who did nothing -- NOTHING -- but post nasty comments day in and day out on this board. Sorry, but that just makes NO sense whatsoever. He digs his own grave, and then people try to blame other GCers for it??? That argument just doesn't hold water, and I firmly believe that others would be getting defensive too if they were mods.
But, even though I'm being "defensive," let me make something very, very clear -- just so no one will get the mistaken impression that I feel something is "wrong with the banning." I don't feel that there is ANYTHING wrong with the banning of UF_Pike - or anyone else who joins GC for the sole purpose of stirring up trouble.
As for the comment about "did you not stop to think that maybe people would have a problem with this since most of the vulgarity surrounding UF was related to other "more respected" members attacking him"...
The "more respected members" who you say were "attacking" UF_Pike would
never have said a single word to the guy if he hadn't made a dozen obscene posts previously. Some people act almost as if they think other GCers were scanning the boards, just waiting for the opportunity to pick a fight with UF_Pike. It's like they have completely forgotten that UF_Pike himself started nearly every controversy.
About the comment that some GCers "felt threatened by someone who actually possesses social skills." To me, that is truly laughable because people who possess social skills don't get booted from the board. Why? Because they know how to carry on an adult conversation.
At any rate, like it or not, UF_Pike has been banned. If he decides to start his antics again under his new user name, then so be it. He'll most likely be banned again. That's how it goes. Some GCers won't like it, some will. That's life in the real world.