[Kevin]

Ya'll are making this issue (well by ya'll I mean just a certain few) to be 2-dimensional.

It's not a yes/no thing... there are all kinds of different things that play into it.

Moral values is one thing! I'll go out on a limb and say that if someone thinks the behavior is deviant than to them it is! For you to tell them that it's not is a little bit self righteous.

Respect people's values.

Next up... As I was saying this thing has MANY dimensions... Where you might say "If someone wouldn't join the house because there was a gay fella in it we wouldn't want them anyway..." BS!

First off, if that fella's values reflect that of the chapter than why not!?

Secondly, we have to be competetive during Rush. It's a very competitive time and the reality is whether you like it or not this stuff can really hurt you.

Remember you're not dealing with sophisticated people during rush. Typically they are 18-19 year olds fresh out of Highschool. They have a preconcieved notion of what they want in a fraternity. If your house doesn't resemble what they want there are usually lots of other places that do!

While PERSONALLY, I see not a damned thing wrong with it. I'd be proud to have someone as a brother as long as they have the character and the bearing worthy of my organization. As long as they take it seriously.... I also see that it's not just that simple.