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Originally posted by SilverTurtle
I know. That was my exact point. So, madmax & everyone, if their LEADERS are telling them it's okay, then I think the leaders need to answer to the school first. I think that by replacing the leaders (coach, director, etc.) you can eradicate a lot of the problems. As long as you get someone in there who doesn't support hazing.
How many fraternities have their leaders (nationals) telling them it's okay to haze? None that I know of. They are educated repeatedly against it. Other organizations rarely are.
Anyway, I'm not saying that the band/team/etc. shouldn't be punished in some way. But I do think it MAY warrant different punishment than GLOs.
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1. the initial post said nothing about the band director being present.
2. even if your friend at Ohio state was hazed in front of the band director that doesn't mean that the band director took part or told the band that it was ok to haze.
3. we are not talking about 8 year old kids, we are talking about 18-23 year old adults that know hazing is illegal.
I think you are just trying to defend the band because you are in the band.
Your excuse about leaders telling the band it is ok to haze doesnt hold water in my book. I could say the same thing aobut alumni telling a fraternity to haze, but that doesn't make it right.
If a band hazes then they should get the same punishment as a fraternity that hazes..