[SigmaChiCard]

just a note on hazing from a former post of mine:

Originally posted by SigmaChiCard
I don't condone, or agree with it
But I can attest to Physcological Manipulation experiments, and various experiments in general behavioral physchology that Hazing establishes a cognitively dissonant belief that the final goal is so much greater than it otherwise would have been due entirely to the act of hazing. It's not the getting beaten part, or does it even have to be anything physical, as long as getting through it is VERY VERY difficult.

Very basic examples are
you get a brand new car for free or
you save your money working for 5 years to get one not as good

which one do you take better care of....the one you bought, because you convince yourself it's better because you just really put yourself out a lot to even get it, and even if before you knew it wasn't better, that perspective shifts and you now believe the one you bought was better.....the theory of cognitive dissonance as it backs the validity of his statement.

However, hazing also demoralizes basic principles concerning my founding, and I imagine the founding of most all other fraternities/sororities. It cannot create true brotherhood because no one can want to see there brother in agony so much that he will put him there himself. It creates this strong brotherhood, but as the theory of CD implies, it creates it on false pretenses. You convince yourself you and your brothers are tight, because if you're not...then why the hell did you endure the pain. A startling reality before your eyes! This isn't me talking, so don't take it too personal, it's the theory of cognitive dissonance against you hazers and hazees. So quit beating people..this isn't eye fr an eye...it's your brothers! would you hit your real brother or father to make him respect you more? hehe, probably not!

Cory

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Originally posted by SigmaChiCard
If hazing is the reason you're so close with your sisters, then your ritual must be really lacking. You do, however, illustrate my point very clearly. Hazing creates a dissonance that makes you think you really deserve it and its great because you got hazed. haha. Tricks on you! You now feel that everyone should be hazed to bond. I'm sorry for what is evidently you're entire campus, that your chapter participation in ritual does not do that for you. It may prove that you might wish to reevaluate your ethics. Would you haze your best friend in high school to get closer to her? That'd be a bit strange, wouldn't it.

And not to insult your intelligence (entirely), but let me see if I'm getting this point of yours correct. Because some orgs don't haze, anyone with money can get in, yet if your hazed, only the best of the best get in? Is this so? So, the people who let themselves be hazed, and take your shit for the first full semester in school which is when more than ever they need to be learning and growing are the ones who are going to go out and be productive members of society and for your GLO. And it's the (speaking generally) meat heads who love/don't mind getting hazed, so that's what GLO's eventually fill with, and creates the stereotypes we've got, add perpetuates them....you are truly blind.

My thoughts are scattered now, I will try to reply less frustrated later, but to end...

Hazing is about creating friendships on psychologically-inspired false pretenses. I'd say think about that, but you're predispositioned against it already. haha. I'm sorry.