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Originally posted by librasoul22
On another note, the plights of Blacks and Jews CANNOT be compared. Although both ethnic groups have been through a SEVERE trauma, they are fundamentally different. Again, the Jews chose to migrate here, they were not forced to come to America to become enslaved. They did face their share of discrimination (and still do, to an extent), but they were bumped up the totem pole when the next groups of immigrants came to the U.S.
Historically, whenever a group migrated to the U.S., they were automatically classified at the bottom of the hierarchy and recieved the worst treatment until the next wave of immigrants came along. However, since blacks were brought to the United States, they became the new bottom dwellers and for some reason, that has not changed.
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Hmm, alright, I will try to make this as neutral and simple so I don't say anything offensive or stupid here. The plight of Blacks and Jews cannot be compared? I guess I need to understand more of what you mean, in the sense that one suffered more than the other?
There is no way I'm going to sit here and say one group suffered more than the other, I think that would just be the most ridiculous thing to argue about, and pointless. We all suffered, that should be enough. As for Jews choosing to migrate, I think that's a fallacy. Throughout history, all the jewish people have done is migrate from one place to another, only to be enslaved, persecuted, and murdered. There are still people today that believe in blood libels, that's how back assed our friendly friendly world is
Anyway, to say that they chose to come here, where african-americans were forced here as slaves is different, no argument here. However, african americans were emancipated way before jews were accepted in America. Check out some movies from the 1920's and 30's, antisemetism was strong and very much part of American society.
So what did bump the Jews up the totem pole in America then? Well, that's sort of complicated, but the assimilation didn't occur, at least effectively until after the 1967 middle east war when America started showing support for Israel. Most people believe it was pity from the holocaust that made Jews "white" in America, this is not true. Being white in America was strictly for the christians (Protestants) before that time. Economics played an important role I'm sure, as well as other factors. But this is nativism, not what we are suppose to be talking about.
One last thing I'd like to say, which is the gender discrmination as it relates to race. You say African-americans are at the bottom of the ladder so to speak, but even within that classification, it separates even further. I'd have to say that being black as well as female only adds insult to injury, because they have what appears to be double discrimination. Talk about unfair!
Sorry if my ramblings didn't have a point, I just felt like typing some thoughts, later...
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