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Old 06-09-2012, 11:56 AM
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azgz might never come but it is ok if agzg weighs in?
I shall wait for azgz.

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Whatever the excuse that people have for inequality in pay based on gender (and race and ethnicity), the outcome is the same. We can spend all day rationalizing it and examining the history behind it. We know what there is to know about that. Nothing new will come of that which is why that diversion tactic has hopefully expired in the 21st century. It is common for these discussions to turn into "what (insert minority group) is NOT doing correctly which explains their circumstances."

1. Many women have babies and assume (whether through choice or gendered force) most of the responsibility for raising the babies...CHECK.
2. Most women have been socialized to be less aggressive...CHECK.
3. In contrast, most men have been socialized to be aggressive in this patriarchal and sexist society...CHECK.
4. Patriarchal societies revolve around men therefore everything is judged based on what men do and therefore what women should do in order to be taken seriously...CHECK.

Now that the nonsense has subsided, the reality of the matter is that even aggressive women are often not met with rainbows and ponies. Basic probability statistics show that men will be the majority in most companies. There will be a few women (tokens or not) who are allowed up the gendered glass ceiling. Even aggressive women who get to higher pay and higher status positions will often be gendered in a similar fashion as racial and ethnic minorities in higher positions are often reminded that they are "an exception" and/or are being done a huge favor.

Meanwhile, women deserve the same pay as men with comparable qualifications and positions in the workforce. Employers have no problem with leveling the costs for time away from the office, insurance, etc. Smart employers (some have already done so) will make this investment in both women and men employees in order to receive more commitment and labor from the employers. Happier employees=better employees=company profit. That is basic economics and capitalism.

Last edited by DrPhil; 06-09-2012 at 12:07 PM.
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