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Originally Posted by Titchou
No, actually once you graduate you can call yourself "doctor".
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Hate to have to parse my words for you, but I didn't say otherwise. In fact, I said "yes." Calling yourself "doctor" by virtue of a degree and being licensed to practice medicine are two separate and distinct things, at least where I live.
Of course there are bad doctors out there. Lots of them went to med school decades ago, when they took attendance in class and didn't have transcripts of lectures. You're drawing a cause-and-effect connection that may or may not be valid.
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And when I say it is "my experience" I don't know how to better qualify it. Your experience is yours and mine is mine. They may differ but they are still valid.
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The problem is two-fold: Your initial comments were not limited to your experience; they were comments about medical schools generally. And your statements weren't based on
your experience. They were based on what others told you about
their experiences, which might or might not have been objective perspectives and which might or might not have been limited to their specific situations.
My brother is a doctor. My nephew (his son) is in med school. I've had quite a few conversations with both of them about how my nephew's med school experience (at a "top" school, for whatever that's worth) is different from my brother's (at a different "top" school), including in how classes are conducted. FWIW, my brother seems to think that most of the differences are positive and probably result in better trained doctors. Still, that doesn't put me in a position to offer any credible opinion based on my own knowledge of the state of medical school education in the country. I have no experience with medical schools. The experiences of others, even those in my family, aren't my experiences.