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I'm glad with the responses that I have gotten so far. It's pretty cool. Unfortunately, some people think that by hazing I think of forced drinking, drop offs, and other types of hazing. When I was talking about hazing I was not even referring to any of that and hopefully that is not going on within any chapter of Tau Kappa Epsilon. I guess my main focus of this thread was to try and find out where the line is drawn between making the pledge process a CHALLENGE and hazing. There is a clear line of division. I do want 'initiates' to earn their way into the brotherhood, but nothing extreme or really considered hazing (I would hope anyways). I would hate for anybody who wants to just pay to be allowed membership into the brotherhood and that's why I feel that it should be a challenge, but nothing harsh or questionable by any means.
I was searching previous posts on here and came across a previous thread on hazing and was apalled by the remarks by the fake Teke who claimed that he was an advisor and that he hazed to the fullest extent (keeping pledges awake for a week and what not). The actions that he claimed (though false) were beyond the realm of 'questionable' and IHQ was not only right in investigating it, but reassuring to future brothers that it will not/should not happen at any chapter. I'm afraid that people on this board were thinking that I was referring to that in my previous posts and I fervently assure you that I am not. Any fraternity, be it ours or another, has no logic or planning in their recruitment program if they endorse actions such as those. The only thing they accomplish is providing fuel for abuse in future classes (a cycle of abuse for all of you psychology majors).
To start a new tangent on the 'hazing' thread here, I would like 1to read some opinions from people on where the line is drawn between challenging an 'initiate' and hazing an 'initiate.' Please be positive and try not to be negative. I value your opinions and like to talk to other brothers from other chapters. If you're going to e-mail me please don't curse at me because in most cases I agree with you, but you assume otherwise while e-mailing me.
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