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RU Greek, you seem pretty intelligent based on your writing. But I wonder, and this is to all those who have misgivings with Affirmative Action, I wonder how much of that opinion is objective, and how much is just because you happened to be born as white people. For example, Palestinians will go all day talking about the injustices of the Israelis, and vice versa, while really those individuals would probably have the opposite opinion if by chance they were born into the "other side." Now while this discussion is very interesting and thought provoking, I would be much more eager to hear from people who have been born in one situation but have the opinion of the other. Are there any minority classified people who dislike AA? I have seen a few white posters who are for it, and I can be included in that group. Honestly, it's ridiculous for white people to sit back and say, "ohh, she/he is stealing a more worthy person's spot just because they're a minority." Really, think how insulting that is. It makes the assumption that finding a worthy candidate for higher education among qualified recipients of AA is not equal to those of the majority. I don't know about you people, but all of the black people on my NYU campus are exremely intelligent, and many of them are much smarter than the white kids who floated in on daddy's money. I would say it's difficult if not impossible for these fears of underqualified minorities taking the spots of more qualified whites actually occuring. And believe me, if it were to happen, nine times out of ten an extra spot would be created for that ONE random instance. Maybe there is a better solution, but until minorities are given better opportunities in PRIMARY education, the ground must be leveled somehow in Secondary education. Also, this whole thing about immigrants having it tough doesn't really compute. I've known many many european immigrant families, and their kids have gone to places like Johns Hopkins, Harvard, MIT, and other such institutions WITH scholarships. Also you must realize, even IF one generation of immigrants has a rough time, the next one is usually more established. But generation after generation black people still have it tough in this country. Why? Because we are still not doing enough, and whites still have the advantages.