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Originally posted by librasoul22


I was referring to the way that you have completely reversed your original argument. You went from "RACE IS BIOLOGICAL! THE DICTIONARY IS RIGHT!" to your current stance, which is something totally different (and you claim you have been saying it all along). You totally backtracked, it was not a personal attack.

Apparently sarcasm missed you by a week. Don't get your panties in a bunch, this is just a discussion, right?

Now, I haven't backtracked, backpedaled, or reversed any stance. I never said the dictionary is right, so don't put words into my mouth. Race is biological, that position hasn't changed, I just accept your argument that it's social too. Unfortunately, you can't see clearly that both sides are correct, depending on how you perceive it. What I did say was my argument got confused because I started mixing up race def. with racism. So relax, ok?

I think we have agreed that AS THE DEFINITION STANDS...racism can be committed by anyone.

Well it's about g-d damn time someone said it. Congratulations, you're the first! And finally, I can leave this ridiculous post, cause it's the only thing I cared about getting across here. Sheesh!

However, you have argued that race is a natural phenomenon, something biological. I, and others, are arguing that race is a social construct, making the whole point rather moot. If the concept of "race" was created by those in power to classify and oppress accordingly, how can the victims of that opppression be guilty? NOT INDIVIDUALS within the minority, mind you, but the oppressed people AS A WHOLE.

This is fine. I accept the point that it is a social construct. I completely agreed (as before) with you on this. However, my side is also that it's biological. You don't have to like it, just accept that it exists.

The issue of racism and the usage of an inflammatory term are two totally different things...apples and oranges. They cannot be compared.

I disagree, it all centers around the same problem. These terms and their usage exist the way they do because of racism. This is completely related. Otherwise, why get so bent over a different race's usage of them? Yes, I understand it's about opression and reclamation, but that's still racism.

Now. How on EARTH you can possibly tell me what is in anyone else's mind?! This is your problem. You have accused everyone else of making assumptions and throughout this whole thread you have done nothing but.

I don't make any assumptions, I just tell it like it is. My definition of the black community is what you see on an application asking about someone's racial background. I'm not telling anyone here what's going on in their minds, don't take my words so literally. I think the only problem here is you get upset. Some people see things conservatively "A is black, B is white" while others may view it other ways "A is black + white - green * red / brown" All I am telling you with regards to anyone else's mind, is that race has different meanings, different classifications.

My point is, PRECISELY: When you go to fill out a college application, or whatever...the little boxes you check have NO OTHER PURPOSE than to classify you. And when you are in the minority in this country, that is very dangerous. Please mention Affirmative Action in your next post! LOL!

Affirmative Action.


And for your information, those check boxes are for statistical purposes, to see the number of X that apply, go to the school, etc. Yea they classify you, how else are they going to figure out if action needs to be taken to balance those numbers? If you like, you may take a look at FERPA yourself. And of course, those questions are optional, so nobody is required to answer them.


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