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Old 06-23-2002, 08:13 PM
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Re: That's the Key!

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Originally posted by sigmagrrl
1) Would they actually enjoy A, ONE single beer? No, it's the drinking to excess that they want, the excuse for drunken behavior and rowdiness.
Yes.

Ever eat just one oreo? You make a huuuuge assumption here. You have no proof for this statement. I don't want to drink to excess every weekend - and I enjoy beer for the flavor.

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Originally posted by sigmagrrl
2) Are you telling me that these teenagers want to drink because they ACTUALLY APPRECIATE THE TASTE AND BOUQUET of a fine merlot? Or the craft of brewing a fine micro? No, of course not! It's the feeling of invincibility, the being free to say and do what they normally feel too nervous to say and do, the sexual freedom and openness they feel, the not worrying about the consequences of their actions, the inflated self assurance.
OK - I'm going to throw away years of college learning, and go ahead and agree with your assumption here (which is rich, let me tell you).

SO FUCKING WHAT? I hate to reduce it to such a banal level, but seriously, it is NOT the government's job to regulate morality. Being free to say and do what normally they wouldn't, sexual inhibition, all that - that's for me to choose, not you, ace. Sorry.

And besides - here you're again making an enormous false generalization.

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Originally posted by sigmagrrl
3) And I wish people would stop with the whole "You can die for your country" crap. Since the 60's, not one person has been drafted. Military service is completely voluntary. And frankly, I don't want my military slamming back a few. Aren't you supposed to be the Few, the Proud?? An Army of One? Strong and Of Sound Mind???
This is non sequitur to the argument, as you put it.

The point here is that the government is perfectly willing to lower age standards to allow younger and younger people to stand trial, enter the military, and etc - but age standards for legal substances going up is allowable how? It makes no sense.

Please find for me in the constitution of the United States of America where these powers are delegated to the national governing body . . . and don't kid yourself, the federal highway funding law is, effectively and purposefully, legislation of the drinking age nationwide.

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Originally posted by sigmagrrl
Please, it's all crap. Alcohol is a mind altering drug that you just want access to for the influence and change to your demaenor, not for the health benefits. If donuts and bagels gave you the same effect, alcohol wouldn't have the same draw. Don't bull$hit a bull#hiter!
Ms sigmagrrl - take your own advice, and don't bullshit a bullshitter . . . your arguments here are far from convincing (or cogent). I totally understand how your views have formed from past bad experience in your family, but don't extend bad generalizations onto the rest of us. Alcohol is not the root of all evil - perhaps instead of your vehement anti-alcohol stances, you should put the time into alcohol education, and teaching people how to properly fit alcohol into life given family history, and the dangers of the substance.

Or keep telling me that I just want to get wasted every day, get girls drunk to have sex with them, and that I can't appreciate a fine Merlot. Think about which one makes more sense.
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