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Old 10-13-2011, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by *winter* View Post
Wait...is it just me, or did we already discuss this subject on this thread? I agree- people need to go where the money is, so to speak.


The point I was making is, just because an agency has "jobs" to offer does not mean there are jobs abounding everywhere. Around here, the temp agencies are just that- temps. 90% of the jobs are not permanent. Like now, you could get into any warehouse/shipping job around here for the holidays (provided you have experience) but as of 1/1/2012 you'll be laid off again.

There really aren't a ton of jobs, so today's HS and college students, and job-career changers need to keep this in mind, moreso than in the past. There are always lists of professions most in demand, that's where people need to be concentrating. If I got laid off tomorrow, I would be taking that route, personally. I'm not trying to spend 2 more years in school to get out and not have a job.

The rules have changed. I think people should be grateful that for most, the American Dream is still achievable. They days of absolutely living your dream, buying a house for several hundred thousand dollars, driving a brand-new car and getting granite countertops are over. Remember what it's all about- living a better life, a comfortable life, the lives our ancestors dreamed of when they struggled through world wars, depression, factory jobs, immigrat housing. I don't think the change in values is bad- it's time to get back to basics and off of this absurd idea that the next generation has to blow away the past one to the point that we're in Mc Mansions and ultra-giant SUVs.

I know that is not ALL of what it's about, and I still think that there aren't enough jobs...but thinking with that logic I can understand why the movement would annoy people or come across as whiny. You are inherently privledged in order to be so disenfranchised in the first plac: "Oh I went to college and now I can't get a job." Hm, in many cities over 50% of the students graduate from HIGH SCHOOL...The soldier who has been to Iraq and Afghanistan multiple times and now has severe PTSD and cannot function in a classroom setting because of his issues will not be able to attend college. It's all relative. Many of those protesting are, as my mom would say, "crying with a loaf of bread under their arm."
I saw the string of posts but there was too much I agreed with to try to reply I really think we need to drop our uppity views of trade schools, apprenticeships, community colleges, alternative job training, etc . They really are a good option for a large segment of society. The idea that we need to saddle kids with $70,000 in student loan debt just so they can get a job making $35,000 a year is absurd.

I also believe that you need to go where the money is. I'm originally from the rust belt myself, but I've been living in TX the past few years because of my job. It was tough decision that took me out of my comfort zone but it's a lot better than being laid off. I personally know a few people back in MI who chose to stay (in MI) than move and lost their job because of that decision.
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