[SilverTurtle]

• I don't know hazing laws in every state or policies at every school, but in Ohio, just because you CONSENT to something does NOT mean it's not hazing. (The argument is that you may be consenting because you're afraid of something else, etc.)
  
• The initial article made it sound like there were several people naked in those photos, but subsequent posts only mentioned one guy. If it was one guy and his one friend played a joke (however inappropriate) then I don't think it is hazing. It's a (potentially dangerous) practical joke. If there were several people involved from the same organization, then it probably IS hazing.
  
• I have heard of several incidents, at several chapters, where chapters were given probation before charters are pulled. I think it depends on the severity of the actions. For example, having a pary where a few underage brothers/pledges/new members are drinking isn't the same level as getting someone naked and dropping them off somewhere. The first scenario, assuming it was the first time it happened, would probably warrant probation, where any other violations would lead to losing your charter. The second scenario would call for pulling a charter right away. I hope that made sense.
  
• I have mixed feelings on disciplining the band/team vs. GLOs because there are often adults (e.g. band directors, coaches) present for the hazing. I had a friend who was in the marching band at Ohio State, and he said it was EXACTLY like being in a (steretypical) fraternity. Some of the things he listed ARE hazing, and the band director(s) HAD to be present for them. I think the first step would be disciplinging the director/coach and then the band/team. How many fraternities or sororities would haze in front of their advisors/chapter consultants/etc.?!?!?
  
• I'm a band geek also. We do throw better parties