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Who is insisting this?
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General comment. The point is there are overarching issues that led to the cheating.
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I think it was caused by a county office and superintendent who wanted the appearance of achievement and the accolades that went with it, even though they had no faith in their staff or in their students. And they created the pressure for everyone else.
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This is an example of an overarching issue.
In this case, I change my post to:
"...if people insist that's what the issue is, why do these school districts have county offices and superintendents who only want the appearance of appearance and accolades; have no faith in teachers, staff, and students; and who overtly or covertly encourage cheating, misappropriation of funds, or whatever else? That type of thing wouldn't fly in certain school districts."
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There are very similar districts in the Atlanta area (and in other urban areas of the state) that have the demographics and history that I think your are describing, and they didn't have similar wide spread problems with cheating.
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Cheating is not the end-all-and-be-all, whether districts are caught or not. This thread just happens to be about cheating but, as my post said, I am not too concerned with that. The issues that are pervasive in these school districts manifest themselves in different ways.
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I think the difference is that the leadership in APS, maybe aided by previous dysfunction, was able to go educationally Enron.
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Right so there is something going on that is impacting APS just as it does districts with similar dynamics across the country. Whether it is cheating or some other observable outcome, there is an outcome.